but the whole issue of liquid explosives is a very very damning and dangerous thing. and if we're not careful, we can get beat, and if we get beat on this we lose a lot of people because al qaeda and the al qaeda franchises and offshoots continue to have a preoccupation with airlines and going after aircraft. >> wow. gary, i'm thinking we did with the shoes, we take our shoes off. the underwear bomber. they put their hands all over us. what are they going to do next, open us up at the tsa checkpoint and surgically look us over? i'm not sure. it's really scary stuff. >> it's hard, but look, governor huckabee, when i was in afghanistan in the early years, we had a guy who had a grenade that they inserted literally inside his body cavity, inside his rectum, and he was attempting to detonate it in a surgical ward, trying to kill the doctors that were working on him. >> wow. >> shocking. they will go to any means to kill our people. >> that's a scary thought. gary, thank you for being here. it's a pleasure to have you on the show today. >> it's a great pleasure to be with you, sir. >> thank you.